me and my wife play without the wind tiles ,using the dealer ron score table, doubling for self drawn. with red fives, dora and reach we find it good practice for combining the low end yaku. we play until we have both been dealer twice then tally up, it gets competetive!

what surface are you moving them on? it could be a bit of a drag.

help i`m using ie8 ,i`ve logged in but everytime i hit the big red button i get an error message,i`m using the packetx vpn has this been banned from the site?