Scenario 1: is a double yakuman in my perspective, but i think normal (single) yakumans are counted in almost every type of game(because the people dont want to lose too much just because the other player got lucky) Scenario 2:turn out pretty much as Senechal said, so its \"only\" a rinshan kaihou S...

hmmm this is a strange one. this hand is like 0 fu (actually i see only 2 fu for the double wait on 4) and therefore it\'s worth the base score that was decided before, and thats usaully 20 fu (it seems that ron2-s base score is 30 instead). But other than that...30fu 3han(or fan :P its called yaku ...

i would discard the just drawn 5. A pinfu is enough for start , and then it can become much more, or not :)

My problem is that there are sooo many ways to read and think about discards that i just don\'t know what methods and where to use. Its just overwhelming for me :P

This seems right to me, it\'s surley a point that you reached by playing a countless games so i have nothing other to add for this, just be amazed. I\'m so far away from this level of play...

Yep you can clearly see it just need to concentrate (because almost every player discards in about 2 sec after drawing) Latley im losing on tenhou and its just unbelievable (all the other players get yaku-pai in about 2 turns, riichi in like 4 turns, and i ALWAYS drawn the same tile that i discarded...

I like Tenhou because im not very fluent in jap :P (3kyuu level, but thats only on paper lol :P ), i like it\'s \"design\" (to actually see the walls). Toupaiou is great too, i played a bit at there too, but i like tenhou-s design more. And for Ron2, well it\'s not bad at all, but it seems too hard ...

hmm you know i\'ve been thinking, and maybe its a bit off topic, but wouldn\'t thinking (too much) with the \"two sided\" mindset is kinda dangerous? Doesn\'t this just dull you, and maybe(just maybe) backfires at the most inconvenient moment?

yea this seems to be right, but i don\'t think that 2-5 and 5-8 are sooo better than 3-6 and 4-7. I might be a bad player but i like to throw away the 1-9\'s all the way in the game (except at the endgame). And there are many factors i think, like if the 4 or 5 becomes a dora then the tiles around t...

Yea this is reasonable, but i only go to avoid tan yao if its really obvious (like the player declares riichi at the 10-11 turn and almost all of his discards are 1-9 and honors up till that point)1-4-7 defense is good now that i read more about it :D Thanks for the tips guys, i didn\'t get better a...

huh omg thanks HotelFSR your reply IS insightful. Up til now i was tring to discard furiten waits and tried not to deal into obvious semi-called chin and hon-itsu hands. I also tried the 1-4-7 type defense but it was almost ineffective at like 7 out of 10 cases. But yea the real hard part comes from...

hmmm maybe it sounds a bit odd but i would but the 6sou here :P it seems that this dora can become quite dangerous ...(just a stupid instinct :P ) Or just cut the honor tiles for a pinfu (i like hit and run tactics when im the dealer)

I\'m new to Reach mahjong.com so i thought i say hi :) And i have a few questions too :P First of all, i know how to play, i know the tiles the combinations, yaku-s , furiten etc etc. But what i don\'t get is that how am i supposed to guess at what the other player is waiting for (like after he decl...