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Expert Strategies

Postby sumstuf » Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:48 pm

Hey does anyone got any expert strategies to share for playing mahjong? I started playing recently and it has been fun. But, sometimes I find myself relying on luck too much. Has anyone got any expert strategies they can share?

I only played Hong Kong style mahjong, and I am just starting to learn Chinese Official and Riichi. Are mahjong strategies universal? Like are there any general strategies that are almost the same no matter which style your playing?

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Re:Expert Strategies

Postby Tom Sloper » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:36 am

sumstuf wrote:1. Are mahjong strategies universal?
2. Like are there any general strategies that are almost the same no matter which style your playing?

2. Yes, there are some strategies that carry over to numerous Asian variants.
1. Not all of them are universal.

I wrote an FAQ that covers some universal strategies (for Asian variants) and some that are specific to Japanese mahjong. It\'s at http://sloperama.com/mjfaq/mjfaq08.htm
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Re:Expert Strategies

Postby Poochy » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:28 am

sumstuf wrote:Are mahjong strategies universal? Like are there any general strategies that are almost the same no matter which style your playing?
There are huge changes in strategy based on the variant you\'re playing, so I\'d say few strategies are universal. For example, if you let an opponent ron off your discard, the penalty can be quite great in Riichi, thus making it a highly defensive game. Meanwhile, in the Taiwanese variant, the penalty is a slap on the wrist, so you might as well risk it if given a choice between tenpai and a safe discard.

There are a couple basic things that do tend to apply to all the variants I know of, though. I think most (if not all) of these are probably covered by Tom Sloper\'s link, but I might as well:
1. Calling chi/pon/kan is not necessarily a good thing, so don\'t just call willy-nilly at every opportunity. Having to expose a meld in your hand is inherently disadvantageous; the only thing that can make it a good move is if you happen to really need that tile.
2. Learn patterns of tiles and waits. For example, If you have a 334, you can turn it into a meld if you get a 2, 3, or 5 (if you draw a 2 or 5, discard the 3; if you draw a 3, discard the 4). For a wait example, tenpai with a 7778 means you can win on a 6, 8, or 9.
3. When playing with real tiles or a game that lets you arrange your tiles manually, avoid the temptation to set aside melds in your hand by placing them away from other tiles of the same suit. It may make hand organization seem easier at first, but you may miss some possibilities and learn slower. For example:
7-bam 7-bam 1-crak 2-crak 3-crak 5-dot 5-dot 5-dot 2-bam 3-bam 4-bam 7-bam 8-bam
7-bam 7-bam 7-bam 1-crak 2-crak 3-crak 5-dot 5-dot 5-dot 2-bam 3-bam 4-bam 8-bam
1-crak 2-crak 3-crak 5-dot 5-dot 5-dot 2-bam 3-bam 4-bam 7-bam 7-bam 7-bam 8-bam
These three are all the same hand, but if you had put aside two of the 7-bam as a pair, you might fool yourself into thinking that you\'re just waiting for a 6-bam or 9-bam, and if you put all three 7-bam aside, you might look at it and think you\'re just waiting to pair up the 8-bam.

(That last tip comes courtesy of a personal anecdote with my cousin, who once set aside three 8-crak and then drew a 7-crak and a 9-crak, resulting in a hand arranged as 8-crak 8-crak 8-crak 5-crak 5-crak 7-crak 9-crak. But she thought she was only waiting for a 8-crak to form a 789 shuntsu. Someone discarded a 5-crak, and she was about to pass on it, but luckily for her, I was sitting behind her and called ron for her.)

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Re:Expert Strategies

Postby sumstuf » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:50 am

Thanks for the great tips guys. I read through everything. Most of it seems basic, but the rest just flies over my head. I guess when I start playing things will click.

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Re:Expert Strategies

Postby hirohurl » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:24 pm

Tips for beginners?

1. Learn to be observant - get an awareness of what\'s happening around you... not just your own hand development. I know in Chinese games tiles are thrown out into a common pool, but at least try to take note of the tiles that people are discarding.

2. Learn to play defensively as well as simply going for your hand. Learn to manage risk based on the potential value of your hand / potential damage you\'ll suffer by giving away a dangerous tile.

3. Try to adapt your hand to the circumstances - don\'t get stuck on a single idea for your hand. MJ is all about FLEXIBILITY and adapting to the tiles you draw and the tiles you see others discard.

I could go on, but that will do for one post!

4. Oh, one more thing - practise the art of being \"lucky\".

Good luck!

DH

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Re:Expert Strategies

Postby b4k4ni04 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:38 pm

Corollary to #4, Find something to blame for when you are unlucky. e.g. you discard a dragon and get the same dragon back on your next draw -x-...*arghfist*
〜〜〜星空が最高の舞台/カラスたちカーカーと鳴くよ/いつも思うよ いつ寝てるんだろ〜〜〜 I'm sorry teh b4k4 is lost to GlDeMo please try again later *bzzt* 〜b4k4


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