To Reach or Not To Reach

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To Reach or Not To Reach

Post by gemma » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:31 pm

12th Discard
Seat: South

2-bam 3-bam 2-crak 3-crak 4-crak 7-crak 8-crak 9-crak 2-dot 3-dot 4-dot 5-dot 5-dot 5-dot

What would you discard and would you reach?

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Re:To Reach or Not To Reach

Post by Tom Sloper » Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:37 pm

I\'d discard 2-dot and yes, I\'d declare riichi. It\'s getting late in the hand, and if I hold out for tanyao, somebody else can win first, so I wouldn\'t discard 9-crak. 2-dot is safer to throw than 5-dot and accomplishes the same thing. I declare riichi because that\'s my yaku.
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Re:To Reach or Not To Reach

Post by Robert » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:23 am

Tom: what about pinfu?

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Re:To Reach or Not To Reach

Post by Torgo » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:55 am

I\'ve never actually played Riichi, but if I understand it, if you discard the 9man to go for pinfu, then you\'re not ready and cannot declare reach.

I\'m also very curious as to why the 5 is more dangerous than the 2, especially since you have three of them. Is it because it\'s so easy to connect that it could be someone\'s needed tile?

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Re:To Reach or Not To Reach

Post by Tom Sloper » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:51 am

Torgo wrote:curious as to why the 5 is more dangerous than the 2, especially since you have three of them. Is it because it\'s so easy to connect that it could be someone\'s needed tile?
Yes, it\'s in the middle of the suit, and easy to connect, as you say. The tiles in the middle of the suit are more dangerous than the terminals, especially late in the hand.

And yes, I forgot about pinfu, but I\'d still riichi for its effect on the other players.
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Re:To Reach or Not To Reach

Post by Johnstonjamese » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:33 am

Too late in the hand to hold out for tanyao. I\'d reach in a heartbeat.

You guys are forgetting about the possible sanshoku if you win off of the 4.

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Re:To Reach or Not To Reach

Post by Merick » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:27 am

I would throw the 5-dot and reach.

If you win of the 4-bam you get 7700 ( 4 Yaku 30 Fu ) or still mangan if you tsumo.

If you wait for tanyao you would get mangan, but for only a 300 points increase of my hand, I wouldn\'t wait.

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Re:To Reach or Not To Reach

Post by MashMashy » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:30 pm

if no one else has reached / no one is going for all pins, 5p out and reach. agreed. reach-san-pin is 4, and the 5p isn\'t connected to my wait at all.

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