East 1 - South - First Turn
Dora was a character tile, I don't remember which though. Didn't affect the hand.
			
			
													WWYD 2014-02-14
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WWYD 2014-02-14
					Last edited by Ozball on Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:30 am, edited 2 times in total.
									
			
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Re: WWYD 2014-02-14
I would toss the   as I head for tanyao.
  as I head for tanyao.
I cant see any reason to keep it since I have the 
   and I dont want the
  and I dont want the  
Pinfu also a possibility with 
   
   if I do not open the hand
 if I do not open the hand
			
			
													 as I head for tanyao.
  as I head for tanyao.I cant see any reason to keep it since I have the
 
   and I dont want the
  and I dont want the  
Pinfu also a possibility with
 
   
   if I do not open the hand
 if I do not open the hand
					Last edited by or2az on Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:26 pm, edited 3 times in total.
									
			
									
						Re: WWYD 2014-02-14
You do not supply much information.
			
			
									
									
						Re: WWYD 2014-02-14
That's because there isn't much to supply. It's the first turn, and due to where it's from (Mahjong Fight Club's Fight Tsumo) there IS no other information. Granted though I did forget to specify the turn number (and the Dora). Will fix that.
			
			
													
					Last edited by Ozball on Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
									
			
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Re: WWYD 2014-02-14
I don't have to consider the ohter players hand, point. so that just concentrate tile effeciency.
I don't want to touch ryanmen toitsu and mentsu and ref five. so that my consideration is kanchan-toitsu 
   
   and
 and   
   
   
 
I expect to change ryanmen-toisu. so that can candidate is 
   
   
   .
.
  is out of scope.
 is out of scope.
  is still element of 3 shoku(234 or 345) and no need to stick the head at this moment.
 is still element of 3 shoku(234 or 345) and no need to stick the head at this moment. 
If I discard , to make ryanmen,  only
, to make ryanmen,  only  , but if I discard
, but if I discard   ,
 ,   
   can make ryanmen.
 can make ryanmen.
So that I prefer discard .
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						I don't want to touch ryanmen toitsu and mentsu and ref five. so that my consideration is kanchan-toitsu
 
   
   and
 and   
   
   
 I expect to change ryanmen-toisu. so that can candidate is
 
   
   
   .
. is out of scope.
 is out of scope. is still element of 3 shoku(234 or 345) and no need to stick the head at this moment.
 is still element of 3 shoku(234 or 345) and no need to stick the head at this moment. If I discard
 , to make ryanmen,  only
, to make ryanmen,  only  , but if I discard
, but if I discard   ,
 ,   
   can make ryanmen.
 can make ryanmen.So that I prefer discard
 .
.Re: WWYD 2014-02-14
ryanmen-toitsu -> X
rhanmen-tatsu ->O
			
			
									
									
						rhanmen-tatsu ->O
Re: WWYD 2014-02-14
I'm a very aggressive player, so even on the first turn, I'd try to chase tanyao without abandoning good waits and not hesitate to open the hand.   doesn't remove any ryanmen waits and still keeps a lot of call flexibility by keeping all of the pairs I can pon on. This hand has a lot more potential if kept closed, but it's east 1 and the dealer will be more likely to push their own hand and feed tiles that you might need...
  doesn't remove any ryanmen waits and still keeps a lot of call flexibility by keeping all of the pairs I can pon on. This hand has a lot more potential if kept closed, but it's east 1 and the dealer will be more likely to push their own hand and feed tiles that you might need...
Ignoring the shared calling possibilities, ditching leaves calls on
 leaves calls on  (from dealer) open, but ditching
  (from dealer) open, but ditching   leaves
  leaves   (i guess)  and
 (i guess)  and  as options that can come from anywhere on the table. If your good waits get filled, then you're free to steal and go for the win.
 as options that can come from anywhere on the table. If your good waits get filled, then you're free to steal and go for the win. 
A couple added advantages (minor though they are) is that keeping multiple pairs in your hand can leave you open either to disrupt players' chii calls by ponning away their tiles, or to better inform yourself on potential kabe situations that may come up later in the game. It also lets you keep the possibility for a transition to chiitoitsu, which opens up additional possibility for suji traps or defensive play.
			
			
									
									
						 doesn't remove any ryanmen waits and still keeps a lot of call flexibility by keeping all of the pairs I can pon on. This hand has a lot more potential if kept closed, but it's east 1 and the dealer will be more likely to push their own hand and feed tiles that you might need...
  doesn't remove any ryanmen waits and still keeps a lot of call flexibility by keeping all of the pairs I can pon on. This hand has a lot more potential if kept closed, but it's east 1 and the dealer will be more likely to push their own hand and feed tiles that you might need...Ignoring the shared calling possibilities, ditching
 leaves calls on
 leaves calls on  (from dealer) open, but ditching
  (from dealer) open, but ditching   leaves
  leaves   (i guess)  and
 (i guess)  and  as options that can come from anywhere on the table. If your good waits get filled, then you're free to steal and go for the win.
 as options that can come from anywhere on the table. If your good waits get filled, then you're free to steal and go for the win. A couple added advantages (minor though they are) is that keeping multiple pairs in your hand can leave you open either to disrupt players' chii calls by ponning away their tiles, or to better inform yourself on potential kabe situations that may come up later in the game. It also lets you keep the possibility for a transition to chiitoitsu, which opens up additional possibility for suji traps or defensive play.





