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What Would You Discard (11/7)

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:25 pm
by Shirluban
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I\'ll discard 1-bam
It lets both ways for sanshoku and itsu, and I don\'t have use of so much pairs.
If 8-crak wasn\'t the dora, I would probably discard it instead.

Re:What Would You Discard (11/7)

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:52 am
by b4k4ni04
Along the same vein, I\'d drop the 9S.
If you do get a Straight here, the 8M\'s make a nice pair.

In aiming for Sanshoku, I\'d probably try to stretch it to tanyao as well.

Re: What Would You Discard (11/7)

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:08 pm
by Zi Rong Low
I'd discard the 9-bam , see if I can aim for "Itsu" Ikkitsuukan (Straight Flush) for Bamboos... I wouldn't discard the 6-dot so early and would probably keep it, unless I picked up a 9-dot later on.

Re: What Would You Discard (11/7)

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:12 am
by xKime
4-bam

Forget about ittsuu, erase the 2do-uke of the 1224 shape, and leave an eye for sanshoku.

In your turn as dealer, lowering your ε’ŒδΊ†ηŽ‡ (win percentage) by aiming for two (un-guaranteed) roads at the same time, will only end up hurting you (neither the sanshoku or the ittsuu are assured). With two dora in the hand and a good chance for sanshoku (more so than ittsuu), let's give priority to the uke-ire, and therefore speed. Not only that, but it is also better for the final shape of the hand.

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I also tried to run this hand on Masayoshi Ara's Expected Value analyzer just to see if my choice was correct EV-wise, and turns out it was. Yay. I also simulated a few discards and draws, and ended up with this hand by only the 7th draw:

6-crak 7-crak 8-crak 6-dot 7-dot 8-dot 1-bam 2-bam 3-bam 6-bam 7-bam 9-bam 9-bam

Even without riichi, a dealer mangan chance. With riichi, haneman chance.

Other possibilities going around included:

8-crak 8-crak 6-dot 7-dot 8-dot 1-bam 1-bam 1-bam 5-bam 6-bam 7-bam 9-bam 9-bam

8-crak 8-crak 8-crak 6-dot 7-dot 8-dot 1-bam 1-bam 6-bam 7-bam 9-bam 9-bam 9-bam

8-crak 8-crak 8-crak 6-dot 7-dot 8-dot 1-bam 1-bam 1-bam 7-bam 9-bam 9-bam 9-bam

And the like.

The ranking went out like this: http://img408.imageshack.us/i/evinput.jpg/