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WWYD 2012/10/13

Post by gemma » Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:01 am

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Re: WWYD 2012/10/13

Post by Shirluban » Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:30 pm

I'll discard :west and stay silent.
I prefer a triple wait on three live tiles than a single wait on three live tiles.
The hand will also be more flexible (ex: draw the 1, discard the 8, and wait on 1-4-7), and the full flush will reward at least the same.
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Re: WWYD 2012/10/13

Post by mrrrx » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:31 am

8-dot

Since North didn't ron off the 5-dot I think 8-dot is safe *enough* that it's not worth breaking tenpai. Also there's no :west showing and it's non-yakuhai for everyone, so I feel like there's a decent chance it would come out.

But with either choice that keeps you in tenpai, there are only 3 tiles left that we can win off. I'm not optimistic about the chances of winning before north or south. Dealing into north would probably drop us in last place going into the last round, so we have a lot to lose. On the other hand, as long as we don't deal in, if South wins then we're still in 2nd place (and he probably has a cheap hand) and if North wins we might still be in first, worst case second. So if we drew an especially dangerous tile after this, fold. I'm still on the fence whether or not 8p is safe enough.

edit: I also just realized that since we can see 3 7-dot and 3 9-dot it's really unlikely that anyone's waiting with 7-dot 9-dot . So yeah, 8-dot should be safe enough.

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Re: WWYD 2012/10/13

Post by BoyaSonny » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:58 am

mrrrx wrote:8-dot

Since North didn't ron off the 5-dot I think 8-dot is safe *enough* that it's not worth breaking tenpai. Also there's no :west showing and it's non-yakuhai for everyone, so I feel like there's a decent chance it would come out.

But with either choice that keeps you in tenpai, there are only 3 tiles left that we can win off. I'm not optimistic about the chances of winning before north or south. Dealing into north would probably drop us in last place going into the last round, so we have a lot to lose. On the other hand, as long as we don't deal in, if South wins then we're still in 2nd place (and he probably has a cheap hand) and if North wins we might still be in first, worst case second. So if we drew an especially dangerous tile after this, fold. I'm still on the fence whether or not 8p is safe enough.

edit: I also just realized that since we can see 3 7-dot and 3 9-dot it's really unlikely that anyone's waiting with 7-dot 9-dot . So yeah, 8-dot should be safe enough.
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Re: WWYD 2012/10/13

Post by Kyuu » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:08 am

:west

Don't tell me... someone is waiting on that Xia. :shock: :shock:

I'll drop that Xia, with the wait on 7-8-9 pin. If someone Ron's it, I lose points like a man. :lol: That's my greedy self talking.

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Re: WWYD 2012/10/13

Post by xKime » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:27 pm

The whole thing blew out of the window when I noticed the discarded 7p and 9p.

8-dot

8p until you draw a better wait. Dama.

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Re: WWYD 2012/10/13

Post by Kyuu » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:09 pm

The one thing I want to know: Did the Xia actually result in a loss here?

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Re: WWYD 2012/10/13

Post by xKime » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:26 pm

Kyuu wrote:The one thing I want to know: Did the Xia actually result in a loss here?
That sort of thing doesn't matter. It will only lead to result-based reasoning.

You may ask only if it is purely and solely out of curiosity.

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Re: WWYD 2012/10/13

Post by Shirluban » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:18 pm

xKime wrote:
Kyuu wrote:The one thing I want to know: Did the Xia actually result in a loss here?
That sort of thing doesn't matter. It will only lead to result-based reasoning.

You may ask only if it is purely and solely out of curiosity.
Well said! :D
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Re: WWYD 2012/10/13

Post by Kyuu » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:24 am

xKime wrote:You may ask only if it is purely and solely out of curiosity.
Yep. That's the only reason why I asked. 8)

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