Scoring question
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Scoring question
I'm working through some of the questions from last year's JPML's pro-test and I can't understand the answer to one of the questions. What's the score for the following hand:
winning on a
Dora:
The question asks you to score all situations, so both dealer and non-dealer as well as tsumo and ron. I thought this was just Ryuuiisou (All Green) but the answer is listing it as baiman/sanbaiman (depending on tsumo or ron). The only reason I can think of is that there are no green dragons, but I was under the assumption that All Green just needed to be made up of green tiles not ALL the green tiles (if that makes sense).
Any thoughts?
winning on a
Dora:
The question asks you to score all situations, so both dealer and non-dealer as well as tsumo and ron. I thought this was just Ryuuiisou (All Green) but the answer is listing it as baiman/sanbaiman (depending on tsumo or ron). The only reason I can think of is that there are no green dragons, but I was under the assumption that All Green just needed to be made up of green tiles not ALL the green tiles (if that makes sense).
Any thoughts?
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Re: Scoring question
Ryuu Issou, 32000 on ron, 16000/8000 on tsumo. Oya 48000 on ron, 16000 each on tsumo.
If you had won on and the rules allow that it is Ryuu Issou Suu Ankou Tanki, for a triple yakuman. All the figures above are tripled.
If you had won on and the rules allow that it is Ryuu Issou Suu Ankou Tanki, for a triple yakuman. All the figures above are tripled.
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That's what I thought, however the answer sheet says: ko 16000 ron, 6000/12000 tsumo - oya 24000 ron, 12000 tsumo.Referee wrote:Ryuu Issou, 32000 on ron, 16000/8000 on tsumo. Oya 48000 on ron, 16000 each on tsumo.
Do you mean ?Referee wrote:If you had won on and the rules allow that it is Ryuu Issou Suu Ankou Tanki, for a triple yakuman. All the figures above are tripled.
Question source: http://www.ma-jan.or.jp/wp-content/uplo ... t_2013.pdf
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Re: Scoring question
Yes, . My bad.
Re: Scoring question
From the JPML rules:
I didn't knew that one.
According to Google trad, it means that All Green must include the .• 緑一色 發を含まなければならない
I didn't knew that one.
Cats don't do タンヤオ (tan-yao) but タニャーオ (ta-nya-o).
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Barticles guide states that in some versions it must include the green dragon while in others its not required.
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Yup, another one of those rule options that you'll probably only ever need once in a lifetime. (if you're lucky!)
As a matter of fact I just started playing the new PS3 game Mahjong Haoh: Dankyū Battle 3 this week and this is one of the (83!) rule settings in the game.
As a matter of fact I just started playing the new PS3 game Mahjong Haoh: Dankyū Battle 3 this week and this is one of the (83!) rule settings in the game.
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Fair enough. That explains it. What's the source for the JPML rules? I wouldn't mind going over them before this weekend.Shirluban wrote:From the JPML rules:According to Google trad, it means that All Green must include the .• 緑一色 發を含まなければならない
I didn't knew that one.
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Re: Scoring question
My understanding is the JPML A rules require the .
...and JPML B rules allow yakuman without .連盟Aルールでは發なし緑一色は認められません。
As always, if I'm misinterpreting, please correct me.緑一色は發がなくとも良い
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Re: Scoring question
JPML rules are on the JPML website ;POzball wrote:Fair enough. That explains it. What's the source for the JPML rules? I wouldn't mind going over them before this weekend.
http://www.ma-jan.or.jp/guide/game_rule.html
But it's not up to date: website says B-rules' uma is "+30、+10、▲10、▲30", while Jenn (JPML pro player) says B-rules' uma is now +15/+5/-5-/15.
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I can't tell for sure, but I don't see any thing on the JPML website (cleraly) saying that.Scott Miller wrote:...and JPML B rules allow yakuman without .緑一色は發がなくとも良い
The rule page and this guide say JPML A rule scores yakuman with , but both are mute about B rule.
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Re: Scoring question
Distinction between hatsu or not pertaining to Ryuu Iisou? Oh man, now that's a nightmare.