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Is Pao usually a standard rule now?
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:31 pm
by Goldeneye
Two days ago, I was playing at Sega MJ net and made a dai san gen yakuman in 3er with kamicha discarding the tile which made my third dragon set. I then subsequently went agari on a tsumo.
To my surprise, both kamicha and toimen wound up paying half each, instead of kamicha paying all!
I was quite surprised that pao wasn't enforced here - because apparently pao was nashi!
Has anyone else played a game where pao was nashi? I thought it was pretty much ari these days...
Re: Is Pao usually a standard rule now?
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:28 pm
by Shirluban
Nihon Pro Mahjong and Saikouisen (and USPML) don't use pao.
I'm not sure for 101.
If you were playing a 3-player game, the rule may be quite different.
Re: Is Pao usually a standard rule now?
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:38 am
by Referee
Probably yes, but worth checking: Were the other two dragon sets open?
Also. Was kamicha in riichi before your second set?
Re: Is Pao usually a standard rule now?
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:27 am
by Goldeneye
All three sets were open and kamicha wasn't in riichi at all during that hand.
Re: Is Pao usually a standard rule now?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:42 am
by saitym
Pao is a local rule so is subject to change in different mahjong games but is generally used in most major online mahjong games for dai sangen and dai suu-shi. I checked the rules online for sega mj and they state in their online rule page that there is no Pao for both 3 player and 4 player mahjong. I'll leave the link for the 3 player rules as well as the copy and paste version on the post (Other sites that don't have Pao according to
http://www29.atwiki.jp/mahjlocal/pages/96.html are 東風荘,ジャンナビ,幻想麻雀 and ガメジャン (it says MJ has Pao on this site but that's probably because it hasn't been updated))
http://sega-mj.com/players/gameguide/ma ... le/rule_b/
MJ三麻ルール
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鳴き/リーチ/アガリ
「チー」ができない
ポンの「食い替え」禁止
持ち点が1000点未満の時はリーチできない
ツモ番が残っていない場合はリーチできない
リーチ中に待ち牌が変わるカンはできない
ダブロン有(供託点棒、積み棒は上家取り)
パオ(責任払い)無 (パオ(責任払い)= Pao and the 無 denotes no Pao)
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