game flaw or another optional rule?
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:29 am
Ryan han shibari (二飜縛り) - When there are five counters out (due to dealer's consecutive wins or draws), a minimum of two yaku are needed to go out. Dora and red five tiles do not count towards the yaku minimum.
Unfortunately, I won the hand when I should not have been allowed to.
I don't see this as a big deal since I wouldn't even attempt this under normal game conditions. The only consequence is that my computer opponents would be able to get away with it, every once in a long while. No matter, I'll just have to play smarter when the honba reaches 5.
My only question is that the last character for ryan han shibari in the guides (二飜縛り) is slightly different than in the game. Any significance here?
to clarify: 2 han coming from yaku required. Either a 2 han (or better) yaku, or two or more different yaku. Dora is not a yaku. (Referee)
I found a game which takes the ryan han shibari rule literally, it allows a dora (which is a han though not a yaku) to count as part of the 2-han minimum for the win (at a honba count of 5, naturally).
If its not a flaw in the game, it must be just another optional rule. (or2az)
Well, It took quite a while, since mid-november, to intentionally get into a situation where I would have a hand with only a 1-han yaku, dora tiles, and a honba count of 5 or more, and then try for a win (without menzen tsumo or another yaku), and also that I wouldn't mind the hand being wasted (big lead here) due to the ryan han shibari rule in effect.As far as I'm aware any conditional (5+ Honba) so-called "two-han requirement" will never count dora, although as we know there are endless rule variants and exceptions out there.
I suggest you take some screenshots if you think it's happening. (Barticle)
Unfortunately, I won the hand when I should not have been allowed to.
I don't see this as a big deal since I wouldn't even attempt this under normal game conditions. The only consequence is that my computer opponents would be able to get away with it, every once in a long while. No matter, I'll just have to play smarter when the honba reaches 5.
My only question is that the last character for ryan han shibari in the guides (二飜縛り) is slightly different than in the game. Any significance here?