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Shiisan Pūtā (Thirteen Unrelated Tiles)

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:04 am
by or2az
I posted this definition over 3 years ago, back when I had questions on just about everything, and inquired whether the 2nd part was incorrect since it didn't correspond to the hand I got.
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This hand went against me in ONSEN MAHJONG, a first draw tsumo, naturally.
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This yakuman was NOT by the dealer and the pair was ALREADY in the hand.

So, just to re-affirm, is the definition incorrect, or is it just another variation of an optional rule?

Re: Shiisan Pūtā (Thirteen Unrelated Tiles)

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:29 am
by Gnom
This kind of rule is highly unusual so I doubt there's a standard for it. Whether there is or not, there's not much to complain about if there's a variation since it's already a deviation from the cannon.

Re: Shiisan Pūtā (Thirteen Unrelated Tiles)

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:15 pm
by Barticle
or2az wrote:So, just to re-affirm, is the definition incorrect, or is it just another variation of an optional rule?
I've never seen either of those requirements outlined elsewhere. Several sources give examples with a pair in the hand and some specifically mention that it can be made either by the dealer or (if no calls have been made) by a non-dealer. I only have one screenshot of getting it myself and I had the pair already (but I did happen to be east).

This is very much an optional rule (or "local rule" as they're called). It is one of the more common rule options in video-games though - I've encountered it in at least eight or nine games I think.
or2az wrote:This yakuman was NOT by the dealer and the pair was ALREADY in the hand.
It's certainly an impressive pair in that pic! :oops:

Re: Shiisan Pūtā (Thirteen Unrelated Tiles)

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:56 pm
by or2az
I will assume you are not referring to the south winds.

Re: Shiisan Pūtā (Thirteen Unrelated Tiles)

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:09 am
by Barticle
Such an amazing pair of eyes! :P

Re: Shiisan Pūtā (Thirteen Unrelated Tiles)

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:21 am
by Ignatius
I think that character is Naru-Naru/なる なる/ナル ナル. I'm not sure. But she was the reason I didn't played the game outside my home when I had it installed on my cellphone.

Re: Shiisan Pūtā (Thirteen Unrelated Tiles)

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:14 pm
by Referee
And you say you had the pair in hand? Good for you.

I don't recognize this yakuman (based on my "no easy escapes / no rewards for a bad hand" principle), so I can't help you much. (That's why I dislike most abortive draws too).