Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

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Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by oxoboxo » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:34 am

These are videos of cheating methods used in the anime Legendary Gambler Tetsuya being used and explained in real life. I\'m posting these videos merely for entertainment and awareness; please don\'t use these techniques yourselves!

Expert Technique 1
http://www.youtube.com/v/S_PA23TaPoE&hl=ja&fs=1

Expert Technique 2
http://www.youtube.com/v/DB3SxY3utbs&hl=ja&fs=1

Expert Technique 3
http://www.youtube.com/v/j-5h_K3jZq4&hl=ja&fs=1

Also, the dice, which is the main defense against set-up :) http://www.youtube.com/v/hMfPNfWmOEM&hl=ja&fs=1

And here is Sakurai Shouichi, one of the most famous players in Japan, showing a set-up techique
http://www.youtube.com/v/0hbRTf96xr8&hl=ja&fs=1

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by carl » Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:01 am

i only watched the first video, but at 2:30 when he draws the 3rd red dragon, i had no idea he cheated until the replay. impressive.

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by Osamu » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:52 pm

There\'s a game called Akko de Pon Ikasama Hourouki. which you can cheat in, on the DS.

It\'s kinda fun, especially when an other players gets the chun and haku pairs you stacked in your wall!

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by HotelFSR » Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:02 am

I have to admit this is pretty impressive.

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by Benjamin » Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:13 am

oxoboxo wrote:
And here is Sakurai Shouichi, one of the most famous players in Japan, showing a set-up techique
http://www.youtube.com/v/0hbRTf96xr8&hl=ja&fs=1
In case anyone\'s curious, this guy is still around. He hangs out a lot at his parlor in Machida, where hes founded a new "style" of Mahjong. Unfortunately, he doesn\'t cheat anymore.

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by HotelFSR » Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:26 am

I\'m curious... what is this guy\'s \"new style\" like? anyplace on the net to find out about it?

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by Benjamin » Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:05 pm

www.jankiryu.com/ (Japanese only)

Its kinda complicated to explain but basically they teach \"self-reliant\" Mahjong by putting restrictions on how you can play. Make all your moves within 3 seconds, no playing defense, no discarding a jihai on the first turn, no hikkake-riichi (riich on 5 and you\'re waiting on 8 or 2) and various other restrictions. It\'s worth trying.

There\'s an SNES rom out there that lets you play by their rules.

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by HotelFSR » Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:32 pm

Sounds fascinating. I\'ll definitely look into it.

Unfortunately my Japanese reading level will make that a time consuming task.

What do you mean by no defense in Janki Ryu?

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by Benjamin » Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:53 am

For the most part youre not allowed to fold. Not even if you`re in first.

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by HotelFSR » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:53 am

Huh... how is that enforced?

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by Osamu » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:01 am

HotelFSR wrote:Huh... how is that enforced?
By getting beat up by Sakurai!
http://www.jankiryu.com/report/photo/971.jpg

Actually, I\'m probably wrong...

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by deJENNerate » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:07 am

One of the JPML A-Leaguers, Yuko Ito trained with janki and followed the \"no honors on the first discard\" rule for years.

Konno and I just found last week on the Ron2 blog that he proclaimed that from now on he will discard an honor tile even the first discard if necessary!

Just a funny little story.

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by deJENNerate » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:27 am

Takeo Kojima, the year I was born!
He is known as \"Mr. Mahjong\" and I think he was the first one to \"out\" cheating methods on TV. Hey Ben, do you know if that is right?

Enjoy!

This is his version Tsubame-gaeshi (return the sparrow?), one of the ones shown in the Tetsuya video.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QozI-utscZ4[/video]

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by Benjamin » Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:18 pm

As far as I know, he was the first. If not, he\'s famous for being the first :P

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Re:Expert Technique Mahjong: Cheating

Post by HotelFSR » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:38 pm

Tsubame-Gaeshi is (i think) a reference to the \"Swallow Switch\", a swordfighting move used by Kojiro Sasaki who was the arch rival of Miyamoto Musashi.

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