Illustrated guide of waits with names
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Illustrated guide of waits with names
Originally posted by Barticle here.
Thanks Barticle
Please reply in the original thread, and let this one clear.
More important than knowing the names is knowing the probabilities.
Tanki - pair wait, one tile waiting for another of the same
wait:
As there are four copies of each tile in the full set - and you have one of them - you are waiting for only three tiles.
Some of these might be unavailable if already discarded, in a melded set or in the dead wall so three is the theoretical maximum number.
Ryanmen - the serial pair or two-sided wait, waiting to complete either end of a chow
waits:
Of the five basic waits, this one gives the highest chance of winning - you are waiting for eight tiles in total (four each of the two waits).
A hand must be won on a Ryanmen wait in order to qualify for the Pinfu yaku.
Kanchan - centre wait, waiting on the middle tile of a chow
wait:
You are waiting on four tiles.
Penchan - edge wait, a ryanmen including a 1 or 9 hence only waiting on one side
wait:
Again you are waiting on four tiles.
Shanpon - I call it a \"double pair wait\", a hand with three complete sets and two pairs, one of which must become a pung
waits:
With this one too you are waiting on four tiles but this time two each of the two different waits.
Thanks Barticle
Please reply in the original thread, and let this one clear.
More important than knowing the names is knowing the probabilities.
Tanki - pair wait, one tile waiting for another of the same
wait:
As there are four copies of each tile in the full set - and you have one of them - you are waiting for only three tiles.
Some of these might be unavailable if already discarded, in a melded set or in the dead wall so three is the theoretical maximum number.
Ryanmen - the serial pair or two-sided wait, waiting to complete either end of a chow
waits:
Of the five basic waits, this one gives the highest chance of winning - you are waiting for eight tiles in total (four each of the two waits).
A hand must be won on a Ryanmen wait in order to qualify for the Pinfu yaku.
Kanchan - centre wait, waiting on the middle tile of a chow
wait:
You are waiting on four tiles.
Penchan - edge wait, a ryanmen including a 1 or 9 hence only waiting on one side
wait:
Again you are waiting on four tiles.
Shanpon - I call it a \"double pair wait\", a hand with three complete sets and two pairs, one of which must become a pung
waits:
With this one too you are waiting on four tiles but this time two each of the two different waits.
Cats don't do タンヤオ (tan-yao) but タニャーオ (ta-nya-o).
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Edit: I\'ve corrected the nobetan wait name and added an 8 tiles length example for ryanmenten
Nobetan - I call it a \"floating pair wait\". Four consecutive tiles giving you a tanki wait on one side and another tanki wait on the other side.
You are waiting on (22 345) and (234 55), for a total of 6 tiles.
In both cases you end on a pair, so you get 2 fu and you do not qualify for the Pinfu yaku.
Ryanmenten - five consecutive tiles gives you two ryanmen waits.
waits:
You have one ryanmen wait with 23 + 456 and a second one with 234 + 56.
This hand waits on 11 tiles.
Note that eight consecutive tiles does the same:
waits:
This time, the hand waits on \"only\" 10 tiles.
Sanmentan - this time it\'s seven consecutive tiles for three tanki waits at the same time.
waits:
You are waiting on 9 tiles.
name unknown - a combination of a ryanmen and a tanki.
waits:
waits:
You are waiting on 11 tiles.
name unknown - a combination of a ryanmen and a shanpon.
waits:
You are waiting on 7 tiles.
Nobetan - I call it a \"floating pair wait\". Four consecutive tiles giving you a tanki wait on one side and another tanki wait on the other side.
You are waiting on (22 345) and (234 55), for a total of 6 tiles.
In both cases you end on a pair, so you get 2 fu and you do not qualify for the Pinfu yaku.
Ryanmenten - five consecutive tiles gives you two ryanmen waits.
waits:
You have one ryanmen wait with 23 + 456 and a second one with 234 + 56.
This hand waits on 11 tiles.
Note that eight consecutive tiles does the same:
waits:
This time, the hand waits on \"only\" 10 tiles.
Sanmentan - this time it\'s seven consecutive tiles for three tanki waits at the same time.
waits:
You are waiting on 9 tiles.
name unknown - a combination of a ryanmen and a tanki.
waits:
waits:
You are waiting on 11 tiles.
name unknown - a combination of a ryanmen and a shanpon.
waits:
You are waiting on 7 tiles.
Cats don't do タンヤオ (tan-yao) but タニャーオ (ta-nya-o).
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Re:Illustrated guide of waits with names
Only have a second, but this one:
I\'ll try to get to the others by the weekend v(^^
Is called \"Nobetan\"Ryanmentanki (unsure name) - I call it a \"floating pair wait\". Four consecutive tiles giving you a tanki wait on one side and another tanki wait on the other side.
You are waiting on (22 345) and (234 55), for a total of 6 tiles.
In both cases you end on a pair, so you get 2 fu and you do not qualify for the Pinfu yaku.
I\'ll try to get to the others by the weekend v(^^
Re:Illustrated guide of waits with names
name unknown
Waits: (14 tiles)
This hand includes a ryanmenten wait
. . .
and a mere ryanmen wait
- - - -
name unknown
Waits: (17 tiles)
Did you see the two ryanmen waits
- - - -
- - - -
and the sanmentan wait
- -
Junsei Chuurenpoutou / Chuuren Pooto Kyuumen Machi - the well known nine-sided wait.
Waits: (23 tiles)
What is less known, is how it waits on nine tiles:
a sanmentan
- -
a ryanmenten
- - -
an other ryanmenten
- - -
Junsei Kokushimusou - the well known 13-sided wait, and the nicer way to win with kokushi musoo.
Get only one more of these tiles and you win.
You are waiting on 39 tiles, near 1/3 of all the tiles (28%)!
Waits: (14 tiles)
This hand includes a ryanmenten wait
. . .
and a mere ryanmen wait
- - - -
name unknown
Waits: (17 tiles)
Did you see the two ryanmen waits
- - - -
- - - -
and the sanmentan wait
- -
Junsei Chuurenpoutou / Chuuren Pooto Kyuumen Machi - the well known nine-sided wait.
Waits: (23 tiles)
What is less known, is how it waits on nine tiles:
a sanmentan
- -
a ryanmenten
- - -
an other ryanmenten
- - -
Junsei Kokushimusou - the well known 13-sided wait, and the nicer way to win with kokushi musoo.
Get only one more of these tiles and you win.
You are waiting on 39 tiles, near 1/3 of all the tiles (28%)!
Cats don't do タンヤオ (tan-yao) but タニャーオ (ta-nya-o).
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Re:Illustrated guide of waits with names
name unknown - You should have no problem to see the shanpon wait, but did you see the ryanmen wait?
Waits: (8 tiles)
name unknown - It\'s not just a tanki wait, it\'s a shanpon and ryanmen wait too.
Waits: (9 tiles)
Waits: (8 tiles)
name unknown - It\'s not just a tanki wait, it\'s a shanpon and ryanmen wait too.
Waits: (9 tiles)
Last edited by Shirluban on Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Add the 8sou wait, thanks Iapetus.
Reason: Add the 8sou wait, thanks Iapetus.
Cats don't do タンヤオ (tan-yao) but タニャーオ (ta-nya-o).
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Re:Illustrated guide of waits with names
I´ve been doing some research and found a few more terms relating to waits... B)
Hadakatanki - literally a naked (exposed) Tanki wait where you have four open sets which leaves a single concealed tile to match for your pair.
Harabote - a Shanpon or Tanki wait inside a chow (a Tanki in this example).
wait:
The name Harabote means \"visibly pregnant\" - the wait is \"showing\" inside the chow like a pregnant woman´s bump! :laugh:
Takame and Yasume - where one of your waiting tiles would give you more yaku than the other, the more valuable wait tile is the Takame and the other is the Yasume. Taka means \"expensive\" and Yasu means \"cheap\".
waits:
In this example the Takame is the 1 tile as this would give you Chanta and Ippeikou; the Yasume is the 4 tile.
You might choose to skip an opportunity to ron on the 4 if you think you can get the 1 later. Of course if you self-draw the 4 and discard it you will be furiten and only able to win by tsumo.
Tamenchan - a general name for any wait with three or more sides, the most common example would probably be the three-sided Ryanmenten wait.
Karaten - literally \"empty tenpai\" (it´s the same Kara as karate and karaoke), this is when all of your waiting tiles are unavailable, i.e. already discarded or used in sets.
Hadakatanki - literally a naked (exposed) Tanki wait where you have four open sets which leaves a single concealed tile to match for your pair.
Harabote - a Shanpon or Tanki wait inside a chow (a Tanki in this example).
wait:
The name Harabote means \"visibly pregnant\" - the wait is \"showing\" inside the chow like a pregnant woman´s bump! :laugh:
Takame and Yasume - where one of your waiting tiles would give you more yaku than the other, the more valuable wait tile is the Takame and the other is the Yasume. Taka means \"expensive\" and Yasu means \"cheap\".
waits:
In this example the Takame is the 1 tile as this would give you Chanta and Ippeikou; the Yasume is the 4 tile.
You might choose to skip an opportunity to ron on the 4 if you think you can get the 1 later. Of course if you self-draw the 4 and discard it you will be furiten and only able to win by tsumo.
Tamenchan - a general name for any wait with three or more sides, the most common example would probably be the three-sided Ryanmenten wait.
Karaten - literally \"empty tenpai\" (it´s the same Kara as karate and karaoke), this is when all of your waiting tiles are unavailable, i.e. already discarded or used in sets.
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Re:Illustrated guide of waits with names
Some more names from this page.
Jigoku Machi - literally a \"hell wait\", this is a Tanki Machi (pair wait) where two of the three winning tiles are unavailable so you are waiting on a single instance of a single tile.
(chii) (chii)
wait:
Nakabukure Tanki - a \"swollen centre\" Tanki wait inside a chow, like the Harabote example above.
Pentan - combination of a Penchan and a Tanki.
waits:
waits:
Kantan - combination of a Kanchan and a Tanki.
waits:
Tatsumaki - literally a \"tornado\"!
waits:
Kantankan - two Kanchan waits and a Tanki.
waits:
Happoubijin - a \"person who is beautiful from all angles\"!
waits:
Jigoku Machi - literally a \"hell wait\", this is a Tanki Machi (pair wait) where two of the three winning tiles are unavailable so you are waiting on a single instance of a single tile.
(chii) (chii)
wait:
Nakabukure Tanki - a \"swollen centre\" Tanki wait inside a chow, like the Harabote example above.
Pentan - combination of a Penchan and a Tanki.
waits:
waits:
Kantan - combination of a Kanchan and a Tanki.
waits:
Tatsumaki - literally a \"tornado\"!
waits:
Kantankan - two Kanchan waits and a Tanki.
waits:
Happoubijin - a \"person who is beautiful from all angles\"!
waits:
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Re:Illustrated guide of waits with names
\"Happoubijin\" must be a play on words, because literally, \"happou\" means \"eight directions\", and it is an eight-sided wait.
Re: Illustrated guide of waits with names
I encountered this the other day in Janryumon, and it basically is a combination of a Nobetan and a Ryanmenten, which is a five sided wait.
I had the following: ...
Waiting for the (which means waiting for 1 of 17 possible tiles)
I did eventually draw a to go out.
I had the following: ...
Waiting for the (which means waiting for 1 of 17 possible tiles)
I did eventually draw a to go out.
Re: Illustrated guide of waits with names
I like to think of many waits as variations of the ankou-tan shapes.
The classic 5-way in the above post I call extended ryantan.
Tatsumaki is two-sided ryantan.
Happoujibin is extended two-sided ryantan. There's also the two-sided extended ryantan
which waits on 6 tiles.
Kantankan is two-sided kantan, and there's also extended kantan
and two-sided extended kantan with an added .
Nine gates is double-extended two-sided pentan.
This works in almost any way with both pentans and ryantans. You can add a triplet or a chow on any side of the wait and it keeps improving.
The classic 5-way in the above post I call extended ryantan.
Tatsumaki is two-sided ryantan.
Happoujibin is extended two-sided ryantan. There's also the two-sided extended ryantan
which waits on 6 tiles.
Kantankan is two-sided kantan, and there's also extended kantan
and two-sided extended kantan with an added .
Nine gates is double-extended two-sided pentan.
This works in almost any way with both pentans and ryantans. You can add a triplet or a chow on any side of the wait and it keeps improving.
Also waits on for 9 tiles total. This, too, is an evolved ryantan shape.Shirluban wrote:name unknown
name unknown - It\'s not just a tanki wait, it\'s a shanpon wait too.
Waits: (5 tiles)
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Barticle wrote:Karaten - literally "empty tenpai" (it's the same Kara as karate and karaoke), this is when all of your waiting tiles are unavailable, i.e. already discarded or used in sets.
Re: Illustrated guide of waits with names
Cool. Cool.
Came across this kind of wait last night:
This is essentially waiting on: , ,
Just another Shanpon + Ryanmen wait.
Came across this kind of wait last night:
This is essentially waiting on: , ,
Just another Shanpon + Ryanmen wait.
Re: Illustrated guide of waits with names
Not a tenpai hand, but this sort of pattern should have a name too. Right?
1-shanten hand waiting on or in order to get to tenpai.
1-shanten hand waiting on or in order to get to tenpai.