To Reach or Not To Reach

[gemma]

12th Discard
Seat: South



What would you discard and would you reach?

[Tom Sloper]

I\'d discard 2-dot and yes, I\'d declare riichi. It\'s getting late in the hand, and if I hold out for tanyao, somebody else can win first, so I wouldn\'t discard 9-crak. 2-dot is safer to throw than 5-dot and accomplishes the same thing. I declare riichi because that\'s my yaku.

[Robert]

Tom: what about pinfu?

[Torgo]

I\'ve never actually played Riichi, but if I understand it, if you discard the 9man to go for pinfu, then you\'re not ready and cannot declare reach.

I\'m also very curious as to why the 5 is more dangerous than the 2, especially since you have three of them. Is it because it\'s so easy to connect that it could be someone\'s needed tile?

[Tom Sloper]

curious as to why the 5 is more dangerous than the 2, especially since you have three of them. Is it because it\'s so easy to connect that it could be someone\'s needed tile?

Yes, it\'s in the middle of the suit, and easy to connect, as you say. The tiles in the middle of the suit are more dangerous than the terminals, especially late in the hand.

And yes, I forgot about pinfu, but I\'d still riichi for its effect on the other players.

[Johnstonjamese]

Too late in the hand to hold out for tanyao. I\'d reach in a heartbeat.

You guys are forgetting about the possible sanshoku if you win off of the 4.

[Merick]

I would throw the 5-dot and reach.

If you win of the 4-bam you get 7700 ( 4 Yaku 30 Fu ) or still mangan if you tsumo.

If you wait for tanyao you would get mangan, but for only a 300 points increase of my hand, I wouldn\'t wait.

[MashMashy]

if no one else has reached / no one is going for all pins, 5p out and reach. agreed. reach-san-pin is 4, and the 5p isn\'t connected to my wait at all.